No Limits MMA

Got the following email from them in case you were looking here…
«Total MMA Studios, formerly known as No Limits MMA, has moved to a new location. You can find us at 632 El Camino Real, Tustin, California 92 780, 714 368.3458…»

This month I started working out at No Limits. I’m not a fighter, but I lift weights and do cardio. It’s a huge, clean facility. The staff is knowledgeable and friendly. The members who work out here are also friendly. Overall, its a great place to work get fit.

No Limits MMA and Fitness is alive and well in Santa Ana just down the street from the older, smaller, past location. The new place is HUGE!
The classes are a good size, but not so big that you don’t get needed attention.
The instructors are great and available to help you regardless of your current fitness or MMA level.
It’s intense for those who want it and appropriate for those who just want a challenging MMA workout.
I know they still offer a FREE 48 HOUR PASS to try it out.
The site is

Clowns, plain and simple. Unprofessional, top down. So pathetic that no one cares to update their business info.

This place is seriously pissing me off. I got called recently by No Limits and they informed me that I owed them over 400 dollars. I told them that I quit their gym several months ago and I signed the appropriate paperwork. Long-​story short, I eventually got them to realize that I was right and I didn’t have to pay them anything.
This place is sketchy. Don’t trust them. They will screw you over. All I have to say is Karma is a bitch and everyone at No Limits will eventually get their payback.
If your still not convinced look up the owners: James and Karen Santaniello on the Orange County Superior Court Web Site. On there you have access to look them up and see that they have several civil cases being filed against them. These guys are crooks and I hope that they suffer for screwing with so many people.

Well, I don’t train here anymore and haven’t for almost a year now because of a move, but from what I’ve heard from people that I used to train with is that Team Oyama has left. Don’t really see a point in staying if the fight team is gone. I think that Luciano (awesome guy) and Juliano are still here for Lotus Club BJJ, but that’s about it.
I do remember that their billing was pretty shady, tried to cancel because I was moving and took them a good 3 months to process. And even referred a shit load of people to sign up which was supposed to get me a free month for each one, but… no luck. Go train at Oyama’s new place if you can, facility might not be as nice, but it probably beats being around shady people.

all the good trainers left and have set up camp just a few blocks away.

This place has really declined since they opened. It’s a great facility but that is where the goodness stops. They’ve lost all of the great coaches they had when they opened and have reduced the duration of classes without changing the prices. I went there several times to ask about wrestling practice, I was lied to by the front desk morons and then they told me, «You don’t want to wrestle. You will get hurt. Take x class instead». Do you need to know anything else?

Hey!
I saw a bunch of you are asking where the team, coaches, old staff and coach oyama went to: here is the address and the contact info.
Team Oyama MMA and Fitness
16 782 Hale Ave., Unit C, Irvine, CA
** park on Hale street and walk to the right of the parking lot of the building and its the last door on the left. **
(it’s their temporary location — I’ll let them give you the details…)
Here’s my 2 cents:
I went to no limits for a year and a half and pretty much quit in December. It was great when i started. but its definitely not the same anymore. I hear from friends who are still there that people are getting charged b.s. maintenance fees and they are withdrawing it from your account if you trusted them enough to give them direct withdrawals…
Just letting you guys know that everything great about no limits pretty much died when the coaches, the old staff, the team and Oyama left…
So, in a nutshell, I suggest that if you are still at no limits take your credit card off file (i did that by calling BoA as well as that baltimore company they use which is going to try to get you not to cancel) and start paying them via checks. if you are looking for a gym, you should NOT join this sicking ship…
Lin xo

Although nobody has the full story, it’s disappointing to experience No Limits now and compare it to what I signed a year contract for 6 months ago.
The fight team and most of the trainers left. To where? I don’t know, but they’re gone. Most of the jiu jitsu teachers are still there which is really only what I practice so I’m still fairly happy with the instruction. I go once a week or so which means I’m obviously not training to be a fighter. I enjoy it for fun and fitness which it still provides, despite all the changes and drama happening.
That being said, most of the people I really enjoyed training and learning from are gone. They were real assets and the management lost the best part of the gym. They probably don’t care.
Injuries and infections can happen in any environment like this, but I missed almost two months with a bad staph infection I got at the gym. Of course I still had to pay my dues and not only that, I was randomly charged $ 49 on my credit card. I almost filed for fraud with my bank before I realized who it was from. I still haven’t gotten a response from the messages I left for KAREN. If I wasn’t in a contract, I would have left in a heartbeat just in principal over their business practices.
So I’ve had to lower my rating. It’s OK there, but not what it was last summer and fall. The entire place has changed and there is a much more subtle mood.

All the employees left, all the great trainers left, coach oyama left, the loyal members left, goddayum even the janitor left. If you’re just looking for a regular gym with no heart, go to 24 hr fitness. it’s cheaper :)

This place has undoubtedly gone down hill. Like any business, stay away from it while it’s in transition. I’m sure the place will land on its feet but if you’re looking for training in the area now, it might be a better idea to go elsewhere or just wait.
To give you an idea about how much it has changed, I’d say member attendance since the end of December 08 has declined by 60%. Sad.

It was the best of times and now the worst of times. This used to be a world class gym with amazing instructors and a great facility. The facility is still there but the heart and soul of the gym has been forever lost. As most of you have now read, the trainers and fight team have left no limits. Frankly, without them this is no better than LA Fitness or 24 Hr. Fitness. I wish all of Team Oyama and especially Colin the best of luck and look forward to finding them wherever they land.
WWW​.TEAMOYA​MAMMA​.COM

If you ain’t serious about training hard, then don’t come to this gym. Please do me a favor and don’t step in if you are just a wanna be and think you are cool just cuz you do MMA, you are better off learning the art of invisibility.
I want a gym that is clean and has good training equipment and great trainers. What more can I ask for? People who complain can’t even handle the work out. All pussies and wimps please do me a favor and join the 24 hr. fitness, bally’s, or some yoga class or senior citizen work out classes. You complain cuz you can’t handle the pain, and I bet you sign a contract and only showed up to one class, threw up and never came back and now you want your money back.
I made sure to run for 30 minutes to an hour before getting down to the real deal training. The sales guys were there to make money and that’s why I ain’t hating on them, we all gotta eat right? I miss training here, it’s state of the art and super clean and spacious. Too bad I don’t work out in O.C. anymore. Props to the trainers and fighters for training hard, keep it up.

It is with a heavy heart and great disappointment that I feel obligated to write this update to my previous review of No Limits…
With many gyms, the equipment and venue are the defining factors. At No Limits, the equipment, facilities and gear are top notch. BUT– what makes No Limits the great gym that it is, the reason I drive from San Clemente to Irvine (and home to RSM) five days a week, are the trainers, all members of Team Oyama.
There has been a big blow-​out at the gym. The details are not clear to me, although many signs point to poor decisions by the owners of the gym. Regardless of the cause, Team Oyama has left the gym, including some of the best trainers out there.
For this reason, I can’t recommend joining No Limits until all this has passed, and the smoke has cleared. An entirely new staff is being brought in to replace Team Oyama, and the trainer I had today was very good. But good and Best in Class are very different, and it remains to be seen what will happen to No Limits in the future.
I owe a huge debt of gratitude to Team Oyama, for so many reasons, and hope that they establish themselves quickly. Until they do, I will stay at No Limits, and hope that they do what needs to be done to redeem themselves.
Finally, to those who wrote about the Life Rolls On Foundation fundraiser– Please post an update with any new knowledge you have. The accusations you have cast are quite serious, and need to be cleared up, especially now.

k im a fan of MMA… but i went here for lunch today for the kickboxing class… oh my good… kick my ass it did… i forgot the name of the instructor… but i do remember that he holds his belt @ 118lbs i think… he had us doing everything… i felt like Jean Claude in BloodSport during the workout… then after i felt like ben stiller at the end of Dodgeball…
im here for a free 2 week pass so im gonna take advantage of it… let it keep kicking my ass till i get back into shape… but overall a pretty good experience… i have the sore back and legs to prove it…

I just joined No Limits yesterday, and this place is awesome! I went for a 7-​day trial to get a feel for it, and I have yet to be disappointed. After living back in the Bay Area for a year and going Planet Fitness in Hayward (great gym by the way!) for $ 10/​month, I came to terms that I wasn’t gonna top a deal as sweet as that. However, I’ve been wanting to change up my workout routine because I grew tired of running and lifting weights. Not only that, after moving back to Orange County, I had been gymless for 3 weeks and started to let myself go.
If you’re looking to get fit quicker, this is the place to do it. After going for a few days during my trial period, I can already see the results. Now that I’m a member, I can only expect to see more progress, granted that I go often. No Limits offers multiple classes of cardio kickboxing, muay thai, and Brazilian jiu jitsu. Theres a huge mat in the middle of the complex, and theres also a regulation sized boxing ring and MMA octagon ring. In addition to that, theres multiple punching/​kicking bags. To sweeten the deal, they also have a very modest weight room and cardio section. So its not just limited to boxing/​martial arts space. The facilities are very clean, and they have enough loaner gloves and wraps if you’re still in your trial phase.
Staff here is very helpful, from the front desk who helped me wrap up my wrists before classes, to the trainers than run the classes. They were very helpful in taking me aside to help me work on my form. I’m still a noob, but I’m glad they were nice enough to do that. I even suffered a leg cramp last week and some of the fighters who were on a break were willing to help me out with that and offer me advice on how to prevent/​treat future cramps. Good to know that there’s no real big egos out here.
As far as the class goes, you will sweat… a lot. Your shirt will be drenched. I signed up to do just cardio kickboxing for now because you need some experience before moving into muay thai. But the classes are intense. The instructors do encourage you to push yourself to do as many reps as possible. Honestly, if I didn’t have that, I’d be going at a pace that I would be too comfortable with and not really give myself a good workout. The class runs for a little over an hour, starting off with conditioning and stretching, followed by punching/​kicking combos, and then topping off the class with strenuous ab workouts. Hurts like hell, but I felt great/​sore afterwards. If its your first day, the instructors will help you by learning the basic moves before joining in with the rest of the group.
I admit its pretty pricey here, but you will get your money’s worth if you put enough time and effort into it. Fees are negotiable too, so don’t rule that out. They also have group rates if you’re looking for a discount.
I can honestly say I’m getting addicted to this kickboxing thing because its pretty fun to beat the crap out of a bag. I’m not great at it, but I’m getting a hell of a workout trying. I hope they change the music up a little bit. I think I’ve heard the same songs at least every time I come here, sometimes I’ll hear them twice in 1 visit. If you have any doubts about this place, give the 7-​day trial a chance. Don’t be surprised if you wake up sore the next day.

I went here for about 6 months and so many teachers left while I was there. All the good ones left!
So when my favorite teacher was not showing up to classes anymore, I stopped going. And since I stopped going (I was signed up for a year), they said they’l put my account «On Hold» until I came back. Well, my account was on hold for about 3 months, then I started receiving letters in the mail saying that if I don’t pay, I’m being sent to collections!
So I went back in and paid the cancellation fee of $ 150 to get rid of my account and they said I didn’t owe anything. This was in August 06. In December 06, I started receiving collections letters saying I owed them close to $ 500 in fees. Their billing company was apparently separate from their actual company and they didn’t update their billing company with my cancellation information. I called the billing company to ask about it, and they said they didn’t know anything and had to have No Limits update them. I called No Limits and they had changed billing companies! I kept calling and their billing lady, Joanne, WAS INCREDIBLY HARD TO REACH. It took about 2 weeks to resolve this. Everytime I called she had «just stepped out». They claimed they had moved offices so they didn’t have my cancellation receipt anymore. Good thing I had the charge on my credit card to prove it to them.
I don’t know if it affected my credit but I finally got rid of them after 6 months. 6 MONTHS TO CANCEL AN ACCOUNT THAT WAS ALREADY CANCELLED!!! Apparently it didn’t only happen to me (as I had other friends that went there and complained of the same thing happening to alot of other people).
Terrible place, management knows nothing, incredibly hard to work with, no wonder all the good teachers left.

Feel the BURN!
This place is really big. The trainers are nice and the workouts push you, but the trainers won’t. They just help you with form and tell you what to do. If you’ve done too many mountain climbers and you’re throwing up in your mouth (Gimme a break! It was my second time working out in the past two years!), they don’t mind if you take a minute to walk it off. There are all different levels so the workouts push you exactly as hard as you want to be pushed. It was definitely my kind of place.
I love the Cardio Kickboxing. The format seemed to be 25 minutes of cardio/​calisthenic stuff (jump ropes, running, mountain climbers) followed by some stretching and a break. Then 25 minutes on the bag and a break. Then ten minutes on the mats. I felt like sh*t while I was there, but fabulous after. I’ll definitely be back whenever I’m in CA.

I really like this club a lot, its a different experience than the usual 24hours fitness which I am a member or Bally fitness that I used to be a member, the people here are different.
I think there are 3 groups of people here,
1. Fighters, I think i recognized a few faces I’ve seen on TV.
2. People who want to workout and see the result, like me.
3. I don’t know yet, but I will be prepare for the unknown.
When you come in, they give you a 7 days trial with no pressure sales like other place else, like 24hours, they said they give you a week pass, they never really do, the sales person will said, come see me the nest time you are here and never hand you the pass, here its really 7 days for free.
When you are new to the group, they will ask you to step out and have another person teach you how to do the punch and the kick.
I never know how to pouch before and trust me, its not easy like what you seen on TV, Jap-​cross-​hook-​upper cut, those have different techniques, its not just only throw your arms forward like I did TKB at 24 hours.
They teach you how to kick, wow, I already feel special like I have a personal trainer.
Overall I have the admit that the staffs are great, everyone seems to be able to assist you with what ever problem you have in a very professional manner.
Its the gym to be if you want to see the result.